Audio: Fighting in Az-Zawiyah never stopped

In this phonecall from Tripoli, a man explains that the fighting in Az-Zawiyah never stopped. While the revolutionaries don’t hold the square anymore, they are regrouping and there are attacks on security forces at night.


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11 Responses to Audio: Fighting in Az-Zawiyah never stopped

  1. In this phonecall from Tripoli, a man explains that the fighting in Az-Zawiyah never stopped. While the revolutionaries don’t hold the square anymore, they are regrouping and there are attacks on security forces at night.

    THEY’RE GREAT! That’s Tony the Tiger……That’s good to hear…..and important to know…….If they can rachet it up tommorow evening, we can start looking at a beachead…….Yep! Yep! Yep!……………Uhhhh, prove it…..How about a little smoke from the refinery tommorow early evening. You want the pilots to know you’re out there………If it can’t be done, it cna’t be done….but it would help.

  2. You say Gaddaffi has uninformed soldiers…..Have your broadcast included any information directed at those soldiers with international findings, so that they will realize the futility of their actions….

  3. patriot says:

    Strange when the rebels were making gains no one discussed about sending ground troops.
    Now they are being beaten, they are discussing this and they say they don’t take sides. Who are you fooling?
    Libya will never be defeated. This is your new Vietnam!

    • just one person in england says:

      “Strange when the rebels were making gains no one discussed about sending ground troops.”

      Why is that strange? If they were making progress, what need of assistance?

      “Now they are being beaten, they are discussing this and they say they don’t take sides. Who are you fooling?”

      You mean, they could be telling lies? Like on your state TV? Well, you aren’t the only one who is a bit confused by this. The confusion comes from thinking that the original coalition: US, UK and France, are the same thing as NATO. This is not true, the coalition forces may be in NATO but they do not have absolute control of it. That might be hard for a tyrant’s apologist to understand perhaps? NATO’s political controlling powers have a different collective interpretation of the UN resolution, than the coalition does, that’s the explanation. Still, the coalition is not entirely inactive, but pursuing its own published agenda alongside the NATO one. Clear now?

      You should perhaps just be happy that you only have NATO’s B-team to deal with now, given the US has withdrawn from its original direct combat role and obviously US capabilities are in a class of their own. The coalition were, and still are, of the opinion that the danger to the people of Libya is the unelected regime that has ruled the country by fear and loathing for four decades. To protect people who are in danger, you remove the threat. That’s logical isn’t it? Do not forget that it was your paranoid leader who opened fire on unarmed people, sent tanks and rocket launchers to bombard the cities of his own country indiscriminately after ordinary people grabbed whatever guns they could find and started trying to protect themselves; and it is he who can take the first step to a resolution by withdrawing his troops to barracks and ending the murderous assaults.

      “Libya will never be defeated. This is your new Vietnam!”

      Sloganise all you like. We shall see how it turns out. Everything is possible until something else happens. Vietnam had jungle to hide in, and military technology has advanced a lot since then. You should update your world view. The nineteen seventies are gone.

    • J. Shriner says:

      ‘patriot’, I personally resent your implications and doubt you’re any true patriot from anywhere I’d want to be. But of course, you’re entitled to your opinion, silly though it may be.

  4. patriot says:

    “There will be no boots on the ground” – NATO
    The military advisers are wearing “sandals” ?

    • just one person in england says:

      Ha ha. That is a perfect example of Gadaffi-think. Are you his rotten majesty under a pen name?

      Anyway it would be a good idea except that I doubt the UN resolution itself actually says anything about footwear as such.

    • Harald says:

      There will be no Nato boots (Army units send by Nato) on the ground.
      No ground operation under Nato command.
      That doesn’t means that individual countries or coalitions (Nato members or not) are prohibited to send army units as individual contribution to enforce the UNO resolution and protect civilians under attack by Gaddafi units with ground forces.
      Contrary to that if the relentless attacks on civilians in Misrata by Gaddafi forces continue and the relieve convois with humanitarian goods cannot reach Misrata, and the UN requests an armed escort for these convois, EU army units will escort this convois and secure the port of Misrata with force if necessary.
      Of course they will only fight in self defense or in defense of humanitarian aid deliveries, but a single shot fired by Gaddaffi forces against them or their protected convoi would give them the legitimacy to strike back with force against Gaddafi army.
      And i have the slight prediction that in this case the EU battallions would not rest until they removed any remaining threat of Gaddafi forces by driving them out of Misrata or force them to surrender.
      And those soldiers of the siege forces who do not leave or lay down their arms would be regarded as enemies and killed if necessary.
      Too bad if the rebel forces would take advatage of the fighting and take the abandoned positions of the evicted Gaddafi forces 🙂

  5. Sandy McHoots says:

    Some of the “reports” on this site are just absurd. So an anonymous voice on a conveniently grainy telephone line relays third party information that rebels “control” a city that fell to Libyan government forces over a month and half ago at night and claims the rebels are still carrying out successful attacks on those forces. This can be dismissed by applying a little logic and simple common sense.

    1. Where are these rebels getting weapons to stage these attacks? The idea that every conceivable hiding place in the city has not been searched multiple times by now by government forces is ludicrous.
    2. Similar for ammunition.
    3. Government forces control over the city is obviously secure, and they are obviously confident in their control. They would not be sending buses full of foreign journalists into the city center if a band of rebels could suddenly burst out of nowhere and start shooting up the place.
    4. If rebels really were “hiding during the daytime” and attacking at night, the government forces would have a significant advantage and such rebels would be wiped out very quickly. Why? Because actual reporters on the scene in Misrata report extensive use of night vision equipment by government forces in that city, which has prevented rebel from conducting offensive operations at night. If a similar situation were occurring in another city, the government forces would use a similar tactic there.

    Problematic elements in this “report”
    1. No way to identify the speaker or the location of the speaker. (Could be anywhere).
    2. No way to identify the time the conversation was recorded.
    3. No way to identify the location, veracity, or even physical existence of the person who supposedly passed on the information to the speaker.
    4. Obvious absurdity of the account itself as described above.

    It is interesting that when these kind of exaggerated claims are made there is never any way to independently confirm them. This is despite the fact that rebels often have cellphones and no trouble using them to record video of various incidents, and further have no trouble uploading them to YouTube. By contrast, the kind of splendid victories described in these reports are never recorded on video or uploaded online. Instead, we get a grainy phone connection (Apparently all rebels that phone into this site use old fashioned landlines, andy no doubt their phones sport rotary dials and black coloring). Of course, this leaves the rather obvious question as to how they are able to, given the rather, shall we say, “unreliable” phone service in certain areas of Libya at this time.

  6. Fredy Benghanza says:

    Fuck You Sandy !

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